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Post by ChopperDave on Dec 14, 2020 4:50:38 GMT
Howdy ! 49 years ago I owned a Canadian Mark 1 clone called a Wild Cat that I received for christmas in 1971. It had a super tall sissy bar - to the top of my head - perhaps a record for a Chopper ? Just had a 1969 Mk 1 Frame in Flamboyant green come into my life and I'm building a complete bike bit by bit ! ....my inner child is thrilled lol. Attachments:
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Post by purplemk2 on Dec 16, 2020 12:02:28 GMT
Excellent, I wish I had photos of my original mk2 that i got for Christmas in 1981 but none seem to have survived. Good luck with the mk1 restoration. |
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Post by ChopperDave on Dec 17, 2020 1:19:23 GMT
Thanks very much for the encouragement ! Sorry you lack vintage photos. If it werent for my parents having taken lots of slide photos back then I would not have this photo....there could be one more but I haven't looked hard for it. I still recall riding it in the snow that christmas the first time I took it outside. Here is where I am starting from on my Mk 1 , a somewhat rusty frame in F.Green that came with an equally rusty front wheel. Paid a princely $40 for it :-). I have already found numerous parts for it locally, as the Mk 1 shared components with other Raleigh bikes of the era. I also just got a Mk1 seat from way the heck over in Greece ! I was shocked: prices for original seats and what not in the UK are astronomical - Canada isn't much better. Does anyone know how many Mk 1's were made ?  |
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Post by purplemk2 on Dec 17, 2020 8:47:57 GMT
That doesn't look like your average mk1 Chopper frame, I'm not a mk1 expert but is it a 10 speed? That'd make it even harder to find parts for! Funnily enough I remember the Christmas that I got my mk2 Chopper when I was 8 years old it was thick snow too, I think that was probably the last time we've had a white Christmas where I live! |
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Post by chopperpete on Dec 23, 2020 20:09:06 GMT
Yes, thats a special frame. A 1969 5 Speed......a lot of bits were special to that bike such as rear wheel, Huret derailleur, 5 speed cogs, 5 speed gear changer, slimmer chain ring c etc etc...look out for 70's Raleigh racers with 20/24 inch wheels, they have the parts you will need to restore your bike... or sell the frame and put towards a 3 speed....frame is worth about £500 in uk.. ratrodbikes.com/forum/index.php?threads/Raleigh-chopper-mk1.59281/ |
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Post by ChopperDave on Dec 27, 2020 17:01:53 GMT
Thanks for your valuable suggestions on sourcing parts, Chopperpete. Re the 70's Raleigh "Junior" racers, could you let me know which specific parts are exactly the same as my 5 speed ? Eg is a 20" racer rear wheel compatible in its entirety ? Or just the 5 speed cassette/hub ? Brake levers / calipers ? Crankset ? Thanks !
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Post by chopperpete on Dec 28, 2020 16:05:23 GMT
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Post by chopperpete on Dec 28, 2020 16:18:41 GMT
Raleigh Racer 20/24 inch models only 1. Rear hub and 5 speed sprockets (as long has 36 spokes) 2. Spider web chainwheel/pedal arms 3. Maybe Allvit derailleur (but plenty on ebay) 4. Spoke protector disc 5. Thinner chain US model Raleigh Shopper/20 1. Pedals 2. Front and rear calipers 3. 20 x 2 inch wide rims(wider than UK Shoppers) 4. Maybe brake levers if early model 5. All bearings 6. Seat stem (if you cut top end off and drill holes) Other parts (not exaustive) 1. 5 speed gear changer(base is same as 3 speed) an original will cost about £250 plus 2. Mudguards 3. Seat 4 Sissy bar/springs 5. Handle bars 6. Stem 7. Tyres Good luck, maybe worthwhile buying a good 3 speed to use for parts...  |
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Post by chopperpete on Dec 28, 2020 16:19:20 GMT
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Post by ChopperDave on Jan 7, 2021 19:56:14 GMT
Thanks ever so much for that fantastically detailed "cross reference " list, Chopperpete ! That has already come in handy.
I have found the Huret / Allvit derailleur - with correct little red discs, coming from the US. I have a possible source of the rear 5 speed rear hub at an antique store, barring condition.
I saw the listing for the 5 speed Shifter - actually there are two , now three on Ebay.
I did buy a rear green metallic seat pad from Benzo-One, in Ontario. His authentic chopper parts are either Mk 2 or way to high priced for my budget.
As I mentioned, I also obtained a Raleigh "Folder" and got a few parts off it. The quill isn't the same but can be made to be by drilling a hole in the top of it and adding the long hex head bolt so will try that.
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Post by ChopperDave on Jan 7, 2021 19:59:14 GMT
Does anyone know if the north american 5 speed Mk1 came with both high back and low back sissy bars ?
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Post by ChopperDave on Jan 26, 2021 2:37:38 GMT
I had a lucky find locally, in my quest for 5 speed parts. Someone had a Raleigh Transit 5 speed that has the correct rear hub/cassette/derailleur as well as the snowflake crank. I bought it for $220 Canadian but should be able to resell for close to that after I swap out the hub and crank for a 3 speed and a heron crank. Score !!! |
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Post by chopperpete on Jan 26, 2021 12:03:11 GMT
Thats a great find,,,,,I can't see the brake calipers or levers to see if they will fit,,,,
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Post by nelly88 on Mar 3, 2021 18:26:43 GMT
Couple of points I can think of;
There were at least two cartridges used for the 5 seed back wheel, One was an Atos, which and the tool to remove it is a 2 prong affair that you can find on ebay, And the later one is a spline removal cartridge made by a French company that I cannot remember the name of. You will need to remove the cartridge to change the spoke protector and re-s[poke the wheel.
The spoke protector I think should be a see through plastic affair which are the ugliest they did but I think correct although that also might be only 1 of the model years. If you want to do spokes I use 189mm for rear 5 speed. I attache a picture of one with a different spoke protector to the plastic one I described.
Most 5 speeds I have seen had either the curved sissy bar or the really low square one like in this pic, its poss they were all this low one, however in this photo Ive sent in before there is a yellow one w a HBR so it must have been offered as this was a marketing photo.
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Post by davydomes on Mar 3, 2021 20:05:11 GMT
......... or the really low square one like in this pic, its poss they were all this low one..........
I can't see a photo? |
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Post by nelly88 on Mar 5, 2021 0:24:19 GMT
![]() Cannot seem to post photos dunno why, Sorry. If you look at my older posts you'll see the HBR on the five speed in a thread about seat strap colour, and the low square one is like a MK2 but the top of the sissy is just below the back of the seat. |
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Post by ChopperDave on Mar 19, 2021 0:19:04 GMT
This photo of a mint green five speed shows they came with a metal spoke guard and had a sissy bar with a backwards tilt at the top. Unless this is a rebuilt one that used incorrect parts ? There is however an accompanying video of this bike that seems to indicate its factory original.... Attachments:
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